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authorJoey Hess <joeyh>1999-11-09 23:44:16 +0000
committerJoey Hess <joeyh>1999-11-09 23:44:16 +0000
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@@ -140,4 +140,112 @@ indifferent, especially to the criticisms regaring frequency of
release and the quality of the boot-floppies.
</pre>
+<hr>
+
+<a name=3>
+<pre>
+Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 07:23:23 +1100
+From: Chris Leishman <masklin@debian.org>
+To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
+Subject: Partial freeze?
+
+Ok,
+
+Here is another thought (probably one that has come up before - gotta love
+going around in circles. Let me know if I am).
+
+The problem at the moment is that no-one wants to freeze, because we don't
+know how long we will be frozen for - and in that time things get stale and
+old. And why don't we know how long we will be frozen for? Because some
+"critical to release" packages (like boot-floppies) are not stable and we don't
+know how long they will take to become so.
+
+However - IMHO if we don't freeze, then we are in the same position as
+unstable always is - at any point there can be an update that will cause a
+different "critical to release" package to fail. Who knows - in a month when
+we have boot-floppies working, some other new or updated package might (or
+new policy) might still prevent us from freezing for the same reasons..
+
+Bit of a catch 22 really. If we freeze, then things can stabilise, but they
+might also get stale. If we don't, then things won't get stale, but they may
+not stabilise quickly.
+
+How about this then: We identify those packages which are considered
+"critical to release". This would include packages like boot-floppies and
+policy. Then we declare a _freeze on those packages_. The same freeze rules
+apply - only bug fixes to these packages allowed.
+
+However, new uploads can continue while this stuff stabilises - as long as
+they don't cause problems with the "critical to release" packages. If they
+do, then the freeze rules apply to that upload (no new code).
+
+Eventually we freeze the whole distribution for a very short time to clean
+release critical bugs in non-core packages. We should take a fairly hard line
+on these, and basically say that if there was a version without _new code_
+that didn't exhibit the problem, we backdate to it rather than bugfix.
+
+Ok..conclusions from this idea... This _may_ lengthen the freeze time, since
+we are effectively doing 2 freezes. But the second phase (the phase that can
+introduce stagnation) will be much shorter than it is in our current situation.
+
+Another conclusion may be that this just sounds like common sence, and there
+is no need to make it official...but I've always found these things work much
+better when they are enforced.
+
+The last remaining question is how workable this concept is....
+
+
+Best regards,
+
+Chris
+
+(wish me well for my macroeconomics exam in...oh...1 1/2 hours :)
+
+--
+----------------------------------------------------------------------
+ Linux, because I'd like to *get there* today
+----------------------------------------------------------------------
+Reply with subject 'request key' for GPG public key. KeyID 0xB4E24219
+</pre>
+
+<hr>
+
+<a name=4>
+<pre>
+To: debian-devel-announce@lists.debian.org
+Cc: ftpmaster@debian.org
+Reply-To: ftpmaster@debian.org
+Subject: New members of the archive maintenance team
+From: James Troup <james@nocrew.org>
+Date: 09 Nov 1999 00:41:51 +0000
+
+-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+Hash: SHA1
+
+[ Please don't reply to debian-devel-announce ]
+
+Hi,
+
+I'd like to publicly welcome Gergely Madarasz and Antti-Juhani
+Kaijanaho who are joining Guy, Richard and I as members of the archive
+maintenance team.
+
+Even though we originally only asked for one person to help, we
+decided to take on two new members due to the number of NEW packages
+being uploaded every day.
+
+Thank you to everyone else who kindly volunteered their help.
+
+- --
+James
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+
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